Comments & Questions
January 2001

 The following comments and questions have been received by the Regional Airport Authority and consultant team and appear unedited in their entirety.

Questions and comments received through the Project Information Line, Project Website, and/or Public Information Centers will be forwarded to the RAA and responded to by the consultant team at the next Study Group Meeting, and posted on this site.

     

Audubon Parkway

Louisville, 40213

January 2001

I was just about to close out the 'log' on the holiday weekend's north-flow hi-jinks yesterday evening (New Year's Day), since it had been quiet most of the day - but then the racket started up again, so I took a few more weather readings to include in this report. Each reading is for on-field wind conditions occurring in conjunction with a northbound departure over local residential areas. This list doesn't cover every such departure, of course - in particular, I was away from the area on Saturday afternoon and evening. But the results show a striking pattern of disregard for established runway use policy, which calls for south flow unless the tailwind along the runway azimuth exceeds - exceeds - seven knots. Not only was this threshold never *crossed* at any point recorded, but until Monday readings remained consistently within the range we normally label as "calm" - less than three knots.

Local Time
Wind Direction
Wind Speed
Tailwind Component
29 Dec
2000 260 10 0
2110 260 10 0
30 Dec
0730 270 9 2
0900 260 11 0
0945 270 8 1
1020 250 10 -2
1225 270 14 2
1400 270 13 2
31 Dec
0635 280 6 2
0650 290 7 4
0735 280 7 2
0800 280 9 3
1040 270 7 1
1320 270 6 1
1445 250 5 -1
1845 260 6 0
1955 260 5 0
2010 280 5 2
1 Jan
1650 350 7 7
1715 340 5 5
1745 330 5 5
1805 320 6 5
1825 310 6 5
1910 340 5 5
1925 330 7 7
2005 330 7 7
2050 320 8 7

The Monday readings seem to show only that controllers are leaning too far forward in permitting excessive, unmitigated noise over the community when readings are close to the published threshold - unjustifiably, since the threshold already has a generous safety margin built in. The rest of the readings, from Friday night, Saturday and Sunday are simply inexplicable. If information flow, either to the controllers or to the impacted community, is the problem, there's good news. This is the information age. It's past time to apply some.



Moser Knob Road

Floyd Knobs

January 2001

White plane with blue stripe flying low over Floyd Knobs at approximately 12:30 p.m.



Alma Lynn Drive

Fairdale, 40118

January 2001

Reported a constant roar between 3 a.m. and 5 a.m. in Fairdale. Also wanted to know the status of the Part 150 study group.



Merwin Avenue

Louisville, 40217

January 2001

Awoken at around 5:00 a.m. by louder than normal noise. Also stated his windows were shaking.



Milside Drive

Louisville, 40223

January 2001

White and black helicopter has been loitering in the area of Westport road and highway 146.



S. First Street

Louisville, 40272

January 2001

Many flights departed to the north last night.



Linwood Avenue

Louisville, 40217

January 2001

There is too much aircraft noise, wants aircraft to follow flight path along Preston highway.



Greenleaf Road

Louisville

January 2001

I’m calling on behalf of my mother. Your planes are shaking her house to pieces. She just had to spend a considerable amount of money, to her, to make repairs to her attic where your planes have shaken the house so bad it’s caused extreme settling of the insulation material causing the walls to buckle and have to be torn out, and the insulation removed and new insulation put back in as well as new wall board put back up. These planes shake this house so bad at times that her brass door knocker on her front door knocks on the door of its own accord. Her house has numerous cracks that are developed. Plaster has literally been knocked out of the walls in places. And I would just dare anyone to come over here and stay here for a while as these planes fly over so close to the house that they literally shake it a part. You can even feel some of these planes vibrations in your body. It’s like standing next to one of these car stereos with the base cranked up.



E. Riverside Drive

Jeffersonville, 47130

January 2001

Once again, had numerous UPS planes come over ungodly hours this morning; wake us up. Again, they’re supposed to fly over I-65 where there is already lots of noises; I’ve repeatedly said before. Appreciate very much your implementing this as quickly as possible. Thank you again.



National Turnpike

Fairdale

January 2001

I’m calling regarding the letter, January the 12th from Lieutenant Colonel Tom Marks regarding the noise abatement studies that they are conducting. It seems to me that the main actions that they have taken up to regarding noise abatement is to move the noise from one area of the city to another. Which is, now they have moved it to the south runway and the last two nights out of many I have been awakened at 5:30 by the UPS flights going over. And they moved it from a city area, the noise from a city area to a rural residential area. So from anywhere from 4:30 to 5:30 to 6:00 in the morning the planes go over. And yesterday afternoon, about, around between 4:30 and 5:00 one of the big UPS planes went over and actually rattled the windows. I could see the airplane out my window. They have come over so low that I could see the landing gear doors. So I just think that is some information that I think should be considered into their planning and hopefully they can take the airplanes from at least from the sleeping hours and put it over the interstate and over the areas where they have already purchased properties because of noise. And that’s my comment and thank you very much.



Norton Avenue

Louisville

January 2001

…where all the noises seems to be and Joe Corradino said it ain’t. I’d like to know the noise complaint line for the middle of the night, cause I’d sure like to call somebody in the middle of the night. I’m getting tired of getting woke up over here. I’ve said it in the meeting a thousand times, but now I need to know the numbers of who you call for the noise. And I’m asking the city to step in as concerned citizens and stop this noise whether you’re independent business people or not we need this noise stopped. You people seem to be making money where everybody else ain’t. Anyway I need to know the next date of the meeting and I need to know the number for the noise line.



Preston Highway

Louisville, 40217

January 2001

went to bed at 930.pm noise started at 1030.pm could not go back to sleep, my family was also awakened, we can not tolarate much more of this hellish noise, politicians should have to live under the same conditions that we live under then maby they would move the airport out from the city and louisville would be a nice clean and quiet place to livewith out deicing fluid and jet fuel all over homes.



Moser Knob Road

Floyd Knobs

January 2001

White plane with blue stripe flying low over Floyd Knobs at approximately 12:30 p.m.



Alma Lynn Drive

Fairdale, 40118

January 2001

Reported a constant roar between 3 a.m. and 5 a.m. in Fairdale. Also wanted to know the status of the Part 150 study group.



Merwin Avenue

Louisville, 40217

January 2001

Awoken at around 5:00 a.m. by louder than normal noise. Also stated his windows were shaking.



Audubon Parkway

Louisville, 40213

January 2001

Hm. Just a brief burst of disruption today, but since it came right at bedtime, I thought it'd be worth mentioning. It's clear and dry, and here are the on-field wind conditions reported in conjunction with the non-preferred north departures.

Local Time
Wind Direction
Wind Speed
Tailwind Component
2145 290 5 3
2150 290 5 3
2155 270 4 1
2200 260 4 0

Nothing that quite gets you to the seven-knot threshold…



Orange Drive

Louisville, 40213

January 2001

I do not have a complaint or comment. I live in Edgewood and I am wanting information on the possibility/time frame of my being relocated. What steps can I take to obtain information on this process. Any information you cold supply would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.



Audubon Parkway

Louisville, 40213

January 2001

A stiff north breeze clearly dominated weather conditions on a bright sunny day yesterday morning and early afternoon, justifying north flow. But around 1400 local, the wind just as clearly dropped off, and soon shiftd to the west. North flow continued throughout the afternoon and evening, however, directing the most disruptive operations over the most heavily populated areas without apparent justification. The onset of the nighttime contraflow period was theonly occasion that seeed finally to bring relief.

Here are on-field wind conditions reported durig most of these operations, skipping only those that occurred in such rapid sequence that conditons could be presumed identical. I’m including al the readings taken, to underscore that in no case- not even one-were conditions reported that would exceed the seven-knot threshold to justify non-preferred north flow.

Local Time
Wind Direction
Wind Speed
Tailwind Component
1430 340 3 3
1525 280 7 2
1550 340 5 5
1600 280 5 2
1605 310 6 5
1610 300 10 6
1625 310 6 5
1630 280 7 2
1632 280 7 2
1636 270 7 1
1640 280 8 3
1642 290 9 5
1650 280 6 2
1700 290 8 4
1730 290 8 4
1740 300 7 4
1745 300 6 4
1825 290 4 4
1840 290 4 2
1915 290 8 4
1920 290 8 4
1930 290 8 4
1932 290 8 4
1940 280 8 3
2035 270 9 2
2037 270 8 1
2105 280 6 2
2112 280 6 2
2155 290 6 3

Trust in the fidelity of the control system is difficult to sustain in the face of counterindications like these. Either more information is needed, or more care to the objectives of existing noise abatement measures.